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Sam Altman and Dario Amodei’s First Meeting
This week on “Hard Fork, the hosts Casey Newton and Kevin Roose talk with Ronan Farrow and Andrew Marantz about their recent New Yorker piece on Sam Altman, and the circumstances of his first meeting with Dario Amodei, the former OpenAI executive and current Anthropic C.E.O.
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I have to ask about one detail that I loved in the piece, which is that the first time that Sam Altman and Dario Amodei were scheduled to meet, This was back in, I guess 2015. And, and Sam texted him and said that his Uber had gotten in a crash and he was going to be 10 minutes late to dinner. Now, you did not editorialize on that piece, but knowing you both, Is it your belief that Sam Altman’s Uber actually got in a crash? – I think we’re just going to leave that as non-editorialized and let it stand right there by itself. I mean I — we also I will say, had this conversation and really liked just presenting that uninflected for consideration. OK. If you are the Uber driver who was driving Sam Altman to dinner with Dario Amodei and you are listening to this show, we do want to hear from you. We do want to hear your side. hardfork@nytimes.com. We will get to the bottom of this.

April 14, 2026
